So what church great truly fits as an XL have not washed it yet so I can't comment on that. I like the medium thickness of it because it will fit underneath my leather jacket for a layer in the cooler weather. I gave four stars only because I'm anal and I like my waist and cuffs a little bit tighter on the elasticity, so it's really kind of a personal thing that shared by everybody but the sweatshirt is great and Will enjoy its comfort